Does Modern-day Israel Need a Little Hellfire and Damnation?

This article consists more of a series of “what ifs” and wonderments than of outright answers. I read someone’s comments on Facebook that got me wondering. The gentleman stated that we Latter-day Saints, as modern-day Israelites, lacked the hellfire and damnation preaching that always saved Israel in the past. His concern seems to be centered around the Brethren’s lack of forcefulness when it comes to hard preaching of repentance to the people. His fear seems to be that mediocre and gentle preaching of our need to be better people is only creating a soft and mediocre people who never truly repent and never truly measure up to the status of a converted people.

The Israels compared

Ancient Israel was always a fickle mistress. The prophet Hosea was instructed by the Lord to preach to the people that in the covenant marriage relationship, the relationship between God and his people was that of a faithful husband and an adulterous wife. Ouch! Over and over again the Lord forgave his wandering people. Spiritually speaking they were all over the map. He had given them the Law of Moses to teach them of his mercy and to look to the day when he would come and spiritually save his people. But Israel kept wandering off the path by choosing to worship other gods. Their constant rebellions finally got them scattered all over the earth.


Despite their current condition, that of being scattered to the four corners of the globe, they were promised by their faithful God that the day would come that he would find them and gather them back into his protective embrace. This is the work the gentiles have been enlisted to do in the last days. We are the gentile nations that have been enlisted by the Lord to find the descendants of ancient Israel and bring them back into their covenant relationship with their God.

Those of us who are not the native blood of Israel are adopted into the family of Israel at baptism. It is our responsibility to seek out and bring in all those we can find who are the progeny of ancient Israel, and anyone else who is willing to make the covenants of baptism. The question is, are we the same as ancient Israel? Are we just as fickle as they were? Are the conditions in the last days the same as they were back then?

The expectations of the family or house of Israel are certainly different. They were never required to do missionary work. They were, instead, required to keep to themselves in order to remain pure and unsullied from the world around them. We, on the other hand, are all about missionary work and mingling with every culture and people on the planet as we seek out the Lord’s ancient covenant people.

Patterns of behavior

Anciently, the prophets constantly had to threaten the people with either destruction or being scattered as a nation in order to get their attention and get them to repent. Either that or they had to curse them until they repented. They were, at various times given boils, famine, pestilences, enslavement through being conquered, plagues, etc. Most of the ancient prophets were not real popular people. They were constantly preaching death and destruction to the people. Yes, there were times when the people behaved themselves and enjoyed a generation or two of peace, but those were the bright spots in the Israelitish landscape. Most of the time the records give us accounts of their backsliding ways.

Are we just as bad? I question this. It is certainly true that since the restoration of the gospel to the earth the Lord’s people have gotten themselves into a lot of hot water, but there is little to directly compare here with ancient Israel. Ancient Israel had several thousand years of tradition and prophetic teachings to go by. Modern Israel (the Church of the Restoration) was originally comprised of nothing but converts from various Christian faiths. None of them knew anything when they were baptized about what the Lord expected of his people or how to behave as covenant makers and covenant keepers. There was no Church culture to fall back on when questions of propriety or procedure arose. All the habits, predispositions, and assumptions of their old false religious doctrines had to be slowly weeded from their consciousness so they could begin to think like real latter-day saints.

As I thought about the differences between Israel past and Israel present, it occurred to me that we seem to have a very different kind of relationship with the Lord than they did. Anciently they were not given the privilege of holding the priesthood. Only the prophet and a small handful of men were given any responsibility of any kind. But we are a generation of high priests. Every worthy male member is expected to hold priesthood offices and fulfill callings within the Church. And our women fulfill so many participatory and leadership roles that would have been unthinkable anciently.

As a generation of high priests, we are expected to study the scriptures daily, something ancient Israel did not have the capacity to do. Books, as we know them did not exist. We have the writings of the modern prophets delivered to our homes each month in the form of Church magazines. We have conferences on a regular basis where priesthood leaders, often including the apostles themselves come and teach us. We have constant communication from the prophet and the headquarters of the Church. None of this was possible with ancient Israel.

I believe the Lord has greater respect for the covenant makers in modern-day Israel. We have been given great responsibilities in the last days, and even if we aren’t being particularly stellar at how we are carrying out our charges to gather Israel, we are doing good and not rebelling as a people, like ancient Israel kept doing. Is it possible that the Lord doesn’t need his prophets to preach hellfire and damnation in order to get our attention? Is it possible that as we become gradually more and more converted that we are able to be encouraged to be better today than we were yesterday, and the Brethren’s encouragement will be enough to get us to do it? I don’t know. What do you think?

Many of us were raised with the mentality of the Southern preacher’s hellfire and damnation, Bible thumping sermons. People went home from those sermons with the fear of God instilled in them. He was not portrayed as a God of love, but of vengeance and punishment for those who did not obey. Considering our relationship with the Lord today, will such a portrayal work to motivate the saints of God to greater action? Will fear just be the ticket? I’m not sure how that would work, exactly.

Final Thoughts

The more I thought about my conversation regarding the soft approach the Brethren take, versus the fear and trembling approach by others or by the ancient prophets, the more at peace I feel with the gentler, kinder teaching of the Brethren. I keep thinking of President Russell M. Nelson’s comments about changing the old home/visiting teaching program to ministering. He said, “we will implement a newer, holier approach to caring for and ministering to others.”

President Nelson’s comments, along with all the talks given during the historic April, 2018 General Conference, were gentle, kind, and holy. This is a Church of hope. It is a Church of love and appreciation. We don’t focus on punishment and damnation. Yes, damnation is always, and has always been the only alternative to failure to obey, but our focus is on the prize, eternal life, not the punishment for failing to achieve the prize.

I believe that modern-day Israel (the Latter-day Saints) has some fundamental differences that sets us apart from ancient Israel. We are on a much more intimate standing with the Lord today than they could have been. Our prophet told us back in that April Conference that “In coming days, it will not be possible to survive spiritually without the guiding, directing, comforting, and constant influence of the Holy Ghost.” We are all expected to have constant revelation. The Lord expects more of us than he did of ancient Israel. This is a different day and time. Do you think we would materially benefit from our leaders taking a hard line approach and railing on us to repent by threatening us with hellfire and damnation? How do you think modern Israelites would react to that?

About the Author:

Kelly is retired and living in Rexburg, Idaho, USA. He currently writes for You can find articles by Kelly on,, and as well. He has also published multiple works, including Premortal Promises, and Contributions to the Kingdom, both available on


  1. Jaynie Gaither Holley September 4, 2018 at 11:55 am - Reply

    Kelly, I must admit that I have struggled with this question myself. My progenitors were amongst those who came from England at the time of the Pilgrims on my father’s side of the family, and those who joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in England and Scotland, primarily, on my mother’s side, after the restoration, who left all they owned to come to the United States and join the Saints. My second great grandfather was raised in a home in England as a Baptist and attended Baptist schools from the time he was five years old until he was an adult. It was heresy to join any other church besides the Baptist and the Church of England at that time. But, he and his brother knew that as the listened to the missionaries of our church, that the church was true. Their parents kicked them out of their home when they joined the church. Those traits and characteristics that those people had have been passed down and there are times when each of us individually has had to call down “hell” so to speak. However, I feel that for the most part, that if we continue to “feast on the words” of Christ continually and to pray fervently every day, along with much fasting and striving to learn how to obtain personal revelation, that we can find kinder and wiser solutions. It is true that the Lord has been full of wrath at times, as have his servants. The only difference between the Lord’s wrath and the wrath of some of His servants is that God’s wrath is expressed in perfect control. The Lord is basically very long-suffering, patient, gentle, and kind, and He wants to teach us how to be the same way. Even when he allowed destruction to the wicked, such as in the days of Noah, he provided an escape for them on the other side, where they could repent and learn of him. He has told us to say nothing but repentance to this generation, but how we do that is individual, for the most part. He has given us much information and much to read and study about his gospel and how to apply it in our lives. Living his gospel is applying the basic doctrines of the church daily, which are, faith, repentance, seeking the Holy Ghost and serving where and how the Lord tells us to individually. The programs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are there to help us learn how to more effectively live the gospel of Jesus Christ in our lives. The Lord is not trying to perfect the church. He is trying to perfect the people of the church. Anytime a program of the church is bringing about results that are contrary to the living of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, then that program is in need of change or elimination. Perfection requires that we have the gift of “Charity” which is the pure love of Christ. There are many virtues contained in that gift, as you can read about in I Corinthians, 13, I believe. As parents, we are expected to reprove betimes with sharpness, when moved upon by the Holy Ghost, but he expects us to show forth kindness and much love after that reproof so that the one reproved does not esteem us to be his enemy. D & C 121:41 – 46 pretty much spells it out clearly.

    • Kelly Merrill September 4, 2018 at 12:57 pm - Reply

      Thanks Jaynie. I have been surprised at the number of people who admit they believe the Brethren aren’t doing their job the way the Lord wants it done. I believe what you are saying. I think we need to be more concerned with our personal righteousness rather than sitting in judgment about how the Lord’s servants are performing in their callings. A little charity goes a long way.

  2. Joe Vigliatura September 4, 2018 at 2:46 pm - Reply

    Great article Kelly. I agree. I came from a Catholic background and joined the church when I was 19 almost 42 years ago. I had read the bible and prayed a lot while young. Although I was no angel, I was prepared with questions. When I met the missionaries while stationed in Germany I loved how loving they were and how the members I met were the same way. I was baptized rather quickly because I was ready and asked them the same questions Joseph Smith was asking the Lord. I believe that these days we are fortunate to have loving leaders.

    • Kelly Merrill September 4, 2018 at 7:44 pm - Reply

      Thanks for the great testimony Joe. I agree with you that love is the greatest motivator if we want to change lives.

  3. Lynn Merrill September 4, 2018 at 5:57 pm - Reply


  4. Ava Holley September 5, 2018 at 1:03 pm - Reply

    I was brought up in the south and can remember vividly being told I was a sinner and would burn in hell. I never felt love from my Father in Heaven, only fear.
    The Gospel of love has taught me I am a child of God, who can be anything I want to be. That opened so many doors for me after my conversion. I wished people would stop thinking their way is the best (or only) way, ESPECIALLY when talking about the Brethren. They have never lead us astray and never will. The Savior is at the head of this church and directs our leaders. I love them and are grateful for their wisdom. I don’t know about you, but I do better when I’m lovingly shown how to improve and not forced (though fear) to change.

    • Kelly Merrill September 5, 2018 at 8:02 pm - Reply

      I can’t tell you how happy your comment makes me. Thanks.

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